Jesse Ventura on the Fascist States of America: This is not the country I was born in and it’s certainly not the country I want to die in ……

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Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:35 CST

Former judge Andrew Napolitano talks to former wrestling champion and Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura on Fox News show Freedom Watch. Ventura tells Americans they better wake up to the police state they’re living in. His lawsuit against the TSA was thrown out earlier this month. Listen to Ventura explain what that means for Americans.

Updated: Oakland Policeman Throws Flash Grenade Into Crowd Trying To Help Injured Protester …….

Posted on October 28, 2011 by WashingtonsBlog

Aerial Footage Shows Tear Gas Canister Hitting Scott Olsen and Flashbang Grenade Breaking Up Rescue Attempt

The following aerial footage of the Oakland protests shows Marine veteran Scott Olsen being hit in the head with what appears to be a tear gas canister (approximately 1:40), and a group of protesters trying to rescue him being dispersed by a flashbang grenade (around 1:52):

I am showing this photograph to several video experts, to determine whether the low trajectory of the tear gas canister fired at Olsen shows that the attack was intentional.

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here a related video :

VIDEO – Marine Scott Olsen Moments Before He Was Shot By The Oakland Police, Olsen Now In ‘Critical’ Condition

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……, Is this what you want for your children America ? (filed under : “Herd them and beat them” ) …….

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This video captures NYC police acting like pit bulls, attacking and beating the hell out of non-violent protestors who were not trying to resist and were actually trying to surrender.

This is just one of several videos I have been shown on seen by people on the ground who captured live video of police brutality the Wall Street Mass arrests. Despite the lies you have read about no injuries, no macing, and no police beatings many on the ground tell difference stories and have video to prove it.

Many here do not have the know how to get these videos out to the public who needs to see how the corporate controlled security forces are treating there fellow Americans. This video captures a glimpse of what really is happening on the ground at the Occupy Wall Street Protest.

Make sure you check out NYC Police Attack, Tear Gas And Mass Arrest 2,000 Peaceful Protestors. #OccupyWallStreet and NYC Police Trap Peaceful Female Protestors Inside A Fence Then Mace Them! #OccupyWallStreet

Also, be sure to check back in I have a hard drive of NYC police brutality videos I will be posting.

So help them out and get these videos out and help #occupywallstreet.

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SPECIAL REPORT (US) : Symptoms of Tyranny, Oathkeepers in Arizona

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(RealityReport) – An epidemic is sweeping the nation. In this special report, never seen on the mainstream news, we look at the symptoms of tyranny and take you to Arizona where the Oathkeepers converged to march for a fallen Marine. Jose Manuel Guerena was shot 61 times in his home when Pima County SWAT entered to serve a search warrant. You will get an inside look at the Oathkeepers memorial service where Stewart Rhodes and Sheriff Richard Mack spoke of the recent abuses, presented the widow with a plaque, and provided solutions on how you can overcome these symptoms of tyranny.

The Invincible (Los Invencibles) at Plaza Cataluña

Los Invencibles de la plaza Cataluña – May 27th, 2011

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US : 10 Examples That Should Convince Anyone That We No Longer Live In The Land Of The Free And The Home Of The Brave

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Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:15 CDT

End of the American Dream

© End of the American Dream

Do you know people that still believe that America is a free country? Do you have friends or family that are proud to live in “the land of the free and the home of the brave”? If you do, just show them this article. The things that you are about to read are enough to make the blood of any red-blooded American boil. We don’t live in a free country anymore. Instead, we live in a “Big Brother” police state control grid that is becoming more restrictive every single day. Most of our politicians seem to be control freaks that are obsessed with running every single little detail of our lives. These days there has to be a “rule” or a “regulation” for everything. The radical social engineers in the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany and communist China never even dared to try some of the things that are going on in America today. We are all being treated little better than cattle and we are all being taught that it is best to just sit in our homes and absorb all of the television “programming” that is being provided for us. Meanwhile, our public schools have become little more than prison grids. Our children are being taught to enjoy living as docile slaves in a world where imagination, liberty, freedom and adventure are all greatly discouraged.

Unfortunately, none of this is an exaggeration. Our politicians love to give speeches about “liberty” and “freedom”, but they always seem to have excuses to justify the endless parade of liberty-killing laws that they are imposing on all the rest of us.

Almost all of the freedoms listed in the Bill of Rights have been severely eroded. In fact, a number of them are almost totally gone at this point.

The things that you are about to read should make you mad. In fact, if none of these things make you mad there is a problem. Sadly, millions of Americans have actually embraced tyranny, and if you are not outraged by any of the items listed below than you are likely one of them.

The following are 10 examples that show that we no longer live in the land of the free and the home of the brave….

1. According to the ACLU, state police in Michigan are using “extraction devices” to download data from the cellphones of motorists that they pull over. This is taking place even if those pulled over are not accused of doing anything wrong.

   The following is how an article on CNET Newsdescribes the capabilities of these “extraction devices”….

   The devices, sold by a company called Cellebrite, can download text messages, photos, video, and even GPS data from most brands of cell phones. The hand held machines have various interfaces to work with different models and can even bypass security passwords and access some information.

1. In the state of New York, the Department of Health has designated wiffle ball, dodge ball, kick ball, freeze tag, red rover, frisbee tossing and tug of war as “risky recreational activities“. Any organization or program that allows kids to enjoy these games during the summer will now be subject to strict government regulation according to the New York Daily News….
   

   Under the new rules, any program that offers two or more organized recreational activities – with at least one of them on the risky list – is deemed a summer camp and subject to state regulation.

1. At one public school in the Chicago area, children have been banned from bringing their lunches from home. Yes, you read that correctly. Students at that particular school are absolutely prohibited from bringing lunches from home. Instead, it is mandatory that they eat the food that the school cafeteria serves.

1. Would you like to have your face scanned and your ID recorded every time you attend a public event? Don’t laugh. The San Francisco Entertainment Commission is actually proposing a new rule which “would require all venues with an occupancy of over 100 people to record the faces of all patrons and employees and scan their ID’s for storage in a database which they must hand over to law enforcement on request.”

1. In Delaware, police and state government officials recently tore a basketball hoop right out of a family’s front yard and carted it away because it was “too close” to the street. They even extracted the pole for the basketball hoop out of the ground and took that away too.

1. In Missouri of all places, two young girls named Abigail and Caitlin Mills were recently taught a lesson on how to be good citizens in the emerging totalitarian control grid going up all over the United States. After a complaint from a neighbor, the city of Hazelwood cracked down on the two girls and told them that they must stop selling girl scout cookies in their own front yard.

1. As I have written about previously, federal bureaucrats have outlawed the incandescent light bulbs that we all grew up with and will be forcing us to switch over to new CFL (compact fluorescent lamp) light bulbs that are more expensive and that are actually worse for the environment. One new study conducted by scientists in Germany has shown that the new CFL light bulbs that we are being forced to use contain poisonous carcinogens that are likely cause cancer. In fact, the German scientists say that these CFL bulbs should be “kept as far away as possible from the human environment”.

1. Many states are aggressively seizing “unclaimed” safe deposit boxes and are selling off the contents and using the money to pay state government bills. In the state of California, they are now going after safe deposit boxes if the owners have had “no contact” with the bank for just 3 years. Other states are being nearly as aggressive. If you have a safe deposit box that you have not opened in a while you need to go check on it right away.

1. One Mississippi state judge recently issued an order for state officials to gather and deliver to him the names of every single child that is being homeschooled in the state. The frightening thing is that the judge did this all on his own. Nobody requested this information and there is no case pending for which this information would be required.

1. The TSA had promised that they were going to stop groping little children at airports, but apparently that is not the case. For example, one 6 year old little girl made headlines recently when a TSA worker touched all of her private areas before allowing her to get on an airplane. Her parents were forced to stand aside and watch this outrage take place.

So what do all of you think about this list?

Does anyone out there still believe that we live in the land of the free and the home of the brave?

Feel free to leave a comment with your opinion here….

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US Descends into Total Police State as 2012 “Solar Chaos” Fears Grow

Posted by EU Times on Dec 31st, 2010 // No Comment

 

 

A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared for President Medvedev by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs says that the United States, in 2010, continued its headlong descent into becoming one of the most feared police states our modern World has ever seen.

The term police state as used in this report describes a government that exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic and political life of its population. A police state typically exhibits elements of totalitarianism and social control, and there is usually little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive.

The inhabitants of a police state experience restrictions on their mobility, and on their freedom to express or communicate political or other views, which are subject to police monitoring or enforcement. Political control may be exerted by means of a secret police force which operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional state.

According to this report, the United States has created so many new laws they have created a “virtual web of entrapment” that has turned nearly all of America’s ordinary citizens into criminals without them even knowing it.

The United States further announced this past week that they are expanding their already massive armed police presence into their Nations hotels, train stations and shopping malls in a move that rivals the Nazis placement of Gestapo forces into all aspects of German life, and which, according to former CIA Director Michael Hayden, is due to their governments fear of their own citizens who he claims “want death and destruction and blood and mayhem”.

To the fear among the elite classes ruling the United States of their own citizens wanting “death and destruction” is made readily apparent when viewed in the light of the shocking statistics of what that once great Nation has truly become, such as:

3 million American families foreclosed upon; 30 million American people in need of employment; 43 million American people on food stamps; 52 million American people in poverty; 59 million American people without healthcare; 239 million American living paycheck to paycheck; $144 billion in Wall Street bonuses; and $13 Trillion in investible wealth being held by just 1% of US population.

To the vast majority of the American people being allowed to know the true state of their Nation it now appears to be impossible as their mainstream press has been reported to be nothing more than “journalism of appeasement, corruption, smoke and mirrors” failing on a daily basis to keep their citizens informed of the most important events occurring around them.

Even worse is the shocking news that one of the top reporters of the Washington Post (one of the major mainstream newspapers in the US), named Ezra Klein, stated on the MSNBC television news network this past week that the United States Constitution “has no binding power on anything” and is “confusing because it was written more than 100 years ago”.

The views of Klein and the Washington Post that the US Constitution was no longer in effect were further echoed by the Obama regime this week when they announced that just a single complaint against any American citizen, by anyone, is sufficient to put them on their governments terrorist watch list, a prospect for these innocent people made more frightening by the announcement this month that the Homeland Security Department was “partnering” with their Nations largest retailer, Wal-Mart, to begin running checkout stand videos encouraging these people to become informers on their friends and neighbors.

Note: One of the first victims of this new US citizen spying programme is reported to be the Grana Family of Lincoln, Nebraska who after a ‘complaint’ was made against them were brutalized by over 20 armed police, a frightening prospect, indeed, as these so called American peace officers are even allowed to shoot and kill deaf people who do not immediately obey their orders, and as evidenced this past summer in Seattle, Washington.

Equally as worse as their descent into police state tyranny are the American people not being told by their mainstream media that since the great stock market collapse of 2008, their entire financial system (including billions in bonuses to Wall Street bankers) has becoming nothing more than a gigantic con game as new research done by top analyst Charles Biderman shows no one can figure out who has been buying US stocks for the past 2 years, leading to one to conclude the only buyer of recourse is the US government itself.

Not just to the US government throwing Trillions of Dollars into a bankrupt stock market is the American peoples only danger, either, as new reports are showing their Medicare retirement system is in danger of total collapse due to its being under funded by a staggering $23 Trillion, a grim situation sure to grow even worse as beginning tomorrow, January 1, 2011, 10,000 people a day, for the next 19 years, will begin claiming their benefits as the Baby Boom Generation (those born between 1946-1964) begins reaching the retirement age of 65.

Most grim to read in this report, however, is the Ministries stating that the reason behind the American governments massive suppression of their people is due to the growing fears of what the year 2012 holds for them as near total ‘Solar Chaos’ is set to, perhaps, change our entire World forever and which they want to be prepared for as anarchy will undoubtedly ensue.

To how catastrophic this Solar Chaos event will be was detailed this past year by Dr. Clara Y Yatini, of Indonesia’s National of Aeronautics and Space’s (LAPAN) Solar and Space Division, who equated the blasts due to hit our Earth in 2012 from the Sun as being “equal to 100 million hydrogen bombs”.

So concerned have the Americans become of this “once in a lifetime” event that NASA issued its first warning in 2006 of this apocalyptic solar outburst (but which some scientists believe will begin occurring in 2011) and issued another one earlier this year, and as we can read:

“NASA has previously warned in a study that a solar storm on the surface of the sun could hit earth in the coming years causing mass destruction of our power grids. But unlike the coronal mass ejection that provided views of the aurora borealis at lower latitudes than normal earlier this month, this type of solar storm could be so powerful it may wipe out the power grid on the entire planet.”

Even more concerning are new reports surfacing from one of our World’s top solar scientists about this event, and as we can further read:

“Astrophysicist Alexei Dmitriev says that both Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 satellites reveal that our sun, as well as our entire solar system, is now moving into an interstellar energy cloud. Opher, a NASA Heliophysics Guest Investigator from George Mason University says this interstellar energy cloud is turbulent.

Dmitriev explains that this cloud of energy is exciting the atmospheres of our planets and especially our sun. As this interstellar energy cloud continues to excite/charge the sun, it causes the sun to become more active, resulting in greater output from the sun. IE: Bigger and more frequent solar storms and CME’s resulting in the Carrington effect. This interstellar cloud of electrical energy is also absorbed by the Earth, and scientist have found that it results in more earth quakes, all while dramatically effecting our weather here on earth.

When asked how long will it take our sun to pass through this interstellar energy cloud, Dr. Dmitriev replied, “I don’t know. But If I had to guess, I would say somewhere between two thousand to three thousand years.” This interstellar cloud is a wispy band of charged particles through which our solar system is slowly moving through.

When Dr. Dmitriev was asked what are the implications of all this for earth he replied, “Global catastrophe! Not in tens of years from now, but in ones of years” …in that this global catastrophe is basically right around the corner setting the stage for NASA’s latest solar storm warning 2012-2013.”

To Dr. Dmitriev’s assertion that this solar event will cause the disruption of all of our Solar Systems planets weather patterns there seems to be no doubt as aside from the massive weather chaos now occurring all over our Earth, new reports are showing an outbreak of an enormous storm on Saturn too.

To our Sun being able to influence planetary weather has been further documented by British Meteorologist Piers Corbyn, and of whom we can read about as reported by the Sydney Morning Herald:

“Back in November, when the Met Office was still doing its “mild winter” schtick, Corbyn said it would be the coldest for 100 years. Indeed, it was back in May that he first predicted a snowy December, and he put his own money on a white Christmas about a month before the Met Office made any such forecast. He said that the Met Office would be wrong about last year’s mythical “barbecue summer”, and he was vindicated. He was closer to the truth about last winter, too.

He seems to get it right about 85 per cent of the time and serious business people – notably in farming – are starting to invest in his forecasts. In the eyes of many punters, he puts the taxpayer-funded Met Office to shame. How on earth does he do it? He studies the Sun.

He looks at the flow of particles from the Sun, and how they interact with the upper atmosphere, especially air currents such as the jet stream, and he looks at how the Moon and other factors influence those streaming particles.”

Even more frightening is that the Sun has not only been causing massive weather chaos, but is also reported to new be affecting matter too, and as we can further read:

“For months mounting fear has driven researchers to wring their hands over the approaching solar storms. Some have predicted devastating solar tsunamis that could wipe away our advanced technology, others voiced dire warnings that violent explosions on the surface of the sun could reach out to Earth, breach our magnetic field, and expose billions to high intensity X-rays and other deadly forms of cancer-causing radiation.

Now evidence has surfaced that something potentially more dangerous is happening deep within the hidden core of our life-giving star: never-before-seen particles—or some mysterious force—is being shot out from the sun and it’s hitting Earth.

Whatever it is, the evidence suggests it’s affecting all matter.

Alarmed physicists first became aware of this threat over the past several years. Initially dismissed as an anomaly, now frantic scientists are shooting e-mails back and forth to colleagues across the world attempting to grasp exactly what is happening to the sun.

Something impossible has happened. Yet the “impossible” has been proven to be true. Laboratories around the globe have confirmed that the rate of radioactive decay—once thought to be a constant and a bedrock of science—is no longer a constant. Something being emitted from the sun is interacting with matter in strange and unknown ways with the startling potential to dramatically change the nature of the very Earth itself.”

And if you are thinking that our Sun causing massive weather chaos and changing matter are all that is happening you couldn’t be more mistaken as new reports coming from the High Arctic are stating that where it should be totally dark it is now light and pointing to our Earth’s Axis beginning to shift, but which Western scientists, of course, blame on ‘Global Warming’.

Important to note, also, in this report was the announcement by Israeli scientists this week that a new type of human being over 400,000 years old had been discovered, and which if proven true would upset all accepted theories of evolution and origins of human society.

The importance of this Israeli discovery, and when added to the Solar Chaos soon to be upon us, sheds new light on the theories of the Russian-born American independent scholar Immanuel Velikovsky, who in his seminal 1950 book “Worlds in Collision” detailed our Earth’s ancient past that surprisingly mirrors what is soon to face us all…and overturning of everything.

Though Velikovsky and his theories were thoroughly skewered by the Western scientific establishment, it is important to remember that the great Italian probability-theorist, Bruno de Finetti, speaking in 1964 about Velikovsky’s case, compared the scientific complex to a “despotic and irresponsible Mafia”.

Velikovsky arrived at a body of radical inter-disciplinary ideas, which might be summarized as:

Planet Earth has suffered natural catastrophes on a global scale, both before and during humankind’s recorded history.

There is evidence for these catastrophes in the geological record (here Velikovsky was advocating Catastrophist ideas as opposed to the prevailing Uniformitarian notions) and archeological record. The extinction of many species had occurred catastrophically, not by gradual Darwinian means.

The catastrophes that occurred within the memory of humankind are recorded in the myths, legends and written history of all ancient cultures and civilizations.

Velikovsky pointed to alleged concordances in the accounts of many cultures, and proposed that they referred to the same real events. For instance, the memory of a flood is recorded in the Hebrew Bible, in the Greek legend of Deucalion, and in the Manu legend of India. Velikovsky put forward the psychoanalytic idea of “Cultural Amnesia” as a mechanism whereby these literal records came to be regarded as mere myths and legends.

The causes of these natural catastrophes were close encounters between the Earth and other bodies within the solar system — not least what were now the planets Saturn, Jupiter, Venus, and Mars, these bodies having moved upon different orbits within human memory.

To explain the celestial mechanics necessary to permit these changes to the configuration of the solar system, Velikovsky thought that electromagnetic forces might somehow play a greater role to counteract gravity and orbital mechanics.

Some of Velikovsky’s specific postulated catastrophes included:

A tentative suggestion that Earth had once been a satellite of a “proto-Saturn” body, before its current solar orbit.

That the Deluge (Noah’s Flood) had been caused by proto-Saturn’s entering a nova state, and ejecting much of its mass into space.

A suggestion that the planet Mercury was involved in the Tower of Babel catastrophe.

Jupiter had been the culprit for the catastrophe that saw the destruction of the “Cities of the Plain” (Sodom and Gomorrah)

Periodic close contacts with a cometary Venus (which had been ejected from Jupiter) had caused the Exodus events (c.1500 BCE) and Joshua’s subsequent “sun standing still” incident.

Periodic close contacts with Mars had caused havoc in the 8th and 7th centuries BCE.

Now to what will actually occur in the future it is not in our knowing, other than, of course, to mention that as all of the World’s governments are preparing for a massive ‘something’ to occur by 2012 (including the once free United States throwing away its Constitution and replacing it with a police state, and the creation of the Doomsday Global Seed Vault in Norway) it might behoove everyone to begin the coming New Year by making plans for survival in World soon to be in total chaos.

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Student Riots : Democracy pure in UK , a model for Europe ?

related Guardian Post :

Royal car attack: Cameron calls for ‘full force of law’

• Student leaders claim protesters suffered police brutality
• PM condemns ‘mob’ who attacked Charles and Camilla’s car

• James Meikle, Vikram Dodd and agencies
• guardian.co.uk, Friday 10 December 2010 17.28 GMT
• Article history
Prince Charles and his wife, Camilla, react as the royal car is attacked by protesters in London. Photograph: Matt Dunham/APDavid Cameron today promised the full force of the law would be used on the “mob” who attacked a car carrying Prince Charles and his wife, Camilla, and smashed property in central London last night, while student leaders hit back, claiming protesters had suffered police brutality.

Mark Bergfeld, of the Education Activist Network, claimed demonstrators had suffered “horrendous” conditions as they were kettled for up to 10 hours and said the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall were just in “the wrong place at the wrong time”.

“There was police brutality,” he said. “I saw 14-year-olds carry out their friends with cracked heads and things like that.

“I saw that people were being kettled until 1am on Westminster bridge. They were held there without toilet facilities, without water or food for 10 hours. We don’t live in that kind of regime.”

Cameron and the Metropolitan police commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, said more than a small number of people were involved in violence during and after a Commons vote paving the way for a trebling of university tuition fees.

The prime minister admitted concerns over royal security must be addressed, but said the responsibility for violence lay with the protesters.

“We want to learn the lessons from that but, above all, we want to make sure that the people who behaved in these appalling ways feel the full force of the law of the land … There were quite a number of people who clearly were there wanting to pursue violence and to destroy property.”

Attacks on the Treasury, supreme court and other buildings in central London left the Met facing questions about again losing control of the streets during a demonstration. It also faced questions about some officers being heavy handed, and the kettling of peaceful protesters. A total of 33 arrests were made.

An awful 24 hours for the police continued this morning with the announcement of an Independent Police Complaints Commission investigation into the case of a 20-year-old student who was apparently struck by a truncheon and left unconscious with bleeding on the brain.

Alfie Meadows, a philosophy student at Middlesex University, has undergone a three-hour operation. His mother said he was hit by police as he tried to leave the area outside Westminster Abbey and lost consciousness on the way to hospital.

Susan Meadows, 55, an English literature lecturer at Roehampton University, said: “He was hit on the head by a police truncheon … he’s got tubes coming out of him everywhere. He will be in hospital for quite a while, it was a very major thing.”

Speaking outside No 10, Cameron condemned the “completely unacceptable” behaviour of protesters. “It is no good saying this was a very small minority. It was not. There were quite a number of people who clearly were there wanting to pursue violence and to destroy property.

“I know that the Metropolitan police commissioner is going to be working hard to report on this. I also know, quite rightly, he will look into the regrettable incident where the Prince of Wales and his wife were nearly attacked by this mob. We want to learn the lessons from that.”

The attack on the royal car was not the fault of the police, he said. “This was the fault of people who tried to smash up that car.”

His remarks came after Stephenson said that armed officers protecting the royal couple showed enormous restraint and condemned the “thugs” involved in violence.

The commissioner said the attack on the royal car was a “hugely shocking incident and there will be a full criminal investigation” but added that “short of locking everything down” police had to try to find a balance between allowing protest and stopping violence.

He praised his officers and the royal protection officers for their actions in coping with a “very unpredictable demonstration … and very difficult night” and said they showed enormous restraint in the most difficult of circumstances.

“The route was thoroughly recced in advance, including up to several minutes beforehand when the route was still clear.

“The unpredictability of thugs and how they moved about the capital meant the protection officers were placed in a very difficult position.”

He said kettling and other police tactics did not contribute to the violence. “It is an excuse people are hiding behind … People need to be responsible for their own behaviour,” he said, adding that a significant number of protesters had behaved reprehensibly.

He denied the police operation had been “undercooked” and said it had involved nearly 3,000 officers.

Dozens of protesters and a number of officers were injured. The mayor of London, Boris Johnson, blamed a “large number of agitators who were determined to cause the maximum possible trouble and provocation and they succeeded”.

He said a balance had to be struck between allowing protest and proportionate policing, saying the country could have a “different system”, using watercannon and harsher police tactics that would have left “more broken heads this morning”.

Charles and Camilla’s car was surrounded by a mob as it drove down Regent Street on the way to a Royal Variety performance, with protesters kicking at the doors and shattering a rear window.

The protesters had spilled into the West End after an initially peaceful demonstration outside parliament deteriorated and spread.

Witnesses described how about 400 to 500 protesters were on Regent Street when the royal car was attacked. Charles and Camilla were visibly shaken but unharmed after demonstrators set upon the vehicle with fists, boots and bottles, chanting “Off with their heads” and “Tory scum”.

Video footage posted on YouTube suggested the rear window was lowered as protestors surrounded the car but it was unclear whether Camilla, Charles or the driver was responsible.

Media reports that Camilla was prodded in the chest by a stick could not be confirmed. Today Charles and Camilla praised the efforts of police. A Clarence House spokesman said they understood the difficulties the police faced and were grateful for the job they did in “very challenging circumstances”.

In other developments today, Charlie Gilmour, son of Pink Floyd guitarist David, apologised for climbing the Cenotaph during the protests, saying he “would like to express his deepest apologies for the terrible insult to the thousands of people who died bravely for our country”.

The National Union of Students distanced itself from at least part of its London membership, pointing out that London University’s student union had organised the demonstration in Parliament Square while the NUS held a rally on Victoria Embankment. The NUS president, Aaron Porter, said violent action was deplorable but it would continue to organise peaceful protest.

Clare Solomon, president of London University’s student union, called the NUS leadership a disgrace. “They should have backed this demonstration. They are clearly out of touch,” she said.

The NUS had paid thousands of pounds for “a glow-stick vigil”, attracting 200 people, she said, when her union had spent hundreds on a protest that involved 35,000.

Solomon said it was hypocritical for people in the Tory party and others who voted for the war in Iraq to say that “this is violence when people are breaking windows as opposed to killing people”.

The police should also take some responsibility, she said. “They were the ones beating us up and putting us in hospital when we were attempting to peacefully protest.”

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